does anyone here have/ride a pair of lightweights? thoughts, impressions, opinions? danke.

I have some Hyperion Tubulars which are great. No problem with them but they do not have many miles on the.


But for my riding they are like a blind man driving a Ferrari in Manhattan..waste of product!!!!

They are terrific. Stiff, light and amazingly very stable in windy conditions compared to other deep dish wheels that I ride. Their expensive and when compared to say the Reynolds DV UL wheels, I would go for the reynolds. You can buy two pairs of Reynolds UL's when compared to one set of Lightweights for the same cost.

Lightweight is a German company and I have had some difficulty in dealing with them but once we got the bugs worked out it been much better. Zero components is the US dist and they are a pleasure to deal with. Check with Obtuse and see if he has a pair to try.


Jack

here's an interesting take on the spoke count, from the folks at cc.com:

"Lightweight offers their Standard wheelset in 12, 16, or 20 spokes on the front wheel, and 20 spokes on the rear. They are available in tubular only. Lightweight wheels do not have a weight limit. A heavy rider can ride a 12-spoke front without concern for the durability of the wheels. Lightweight does, however, have suggested weight ranges in terms of providing optimum performance. Since the primary virtue of Lightweight wheels is their stiffness, the weight recommendations for their wheels outline at what body weights a top level rider will find ideal stiffness under racing conditions.

The 12-spoke front is ideal for riders who are determined to shave every last gram and every last bit of aerodynamic drag off their bike. It's an awesome climbing wheel, and it has the softest ride quality of any Lightweight wheel. In combination with the Standard 20-spoke rear the wheelset total is 1120g. Lightweight believes the stiffness characteristics of their 12-spoke front is best actualized by riders at or below 176lbs.

Lightweight tells us that the 16-spoke version is preferred by most pros for all-around use. Its added stiffness results in more precise cornering, and you'll see it used most frequently by the pros on the rough cobbles of Belgium or the mountain stages of the large tours. In combination with the Standard 20-spoke rear the wheelset total is 1130g. Lightweight believes the stiffness characteristics of their 16-spoke front is best actualized by riders at or below 198lbs."

jack, how does the ride of the two compare? i have a "special" bike i'm daydreaming about outfitting. thanks.

fstrnthnu,

have you ridden that tune saddle you're sellin?. the shape looks rad but i can't imaging doing 100something k sans padding. the site is looking good...

shoot, there's a team forming outhere that's actualy paying.. it's bahati's deal through a guy that used to race and has more money than god... haldane morris is running it.... i think they have a spot left.

you should email rahsaan asap if you're moving out here.. tell him i told you about team rock (use my real name). pm me if you need his info...

swoop.

I would use the 16/20 Standards in a flat TT just as soon as I would use them in a hill climb TT or a road race for that matter and I weigh 150 pds "race weight".

Fstrthnu

Swoop,

I had one of the Concorde Carbon's set aside for my Calfee but let it go to to a customer who wanted in on the spot. I think I will go with the Tune Speedneedle anyways... Thank you for noticing the changes on my site though!

I already signed for next year... I am rolling HARD! 14K a year dream SOLID.

Fstrthnu

Climb,

The LW's ride better but I'm not sure if their twice as good compared to their cost. If it's a bling bike, go for the LW's. My new Pinarello Paris carbon that Obtuse just sent me is getting a set of UL's. Both of my sets of LW's weigh within 1 gram of each other(1144gms nd 1145gms). I have three sets of UL's and they weigh around 1125gms. Both LW sets are 16/20 spokes.


Jack

Climb, there are tons of threads over on the weight weenie forum. Just do a search for Lightweight Wheels or LW Wheels.

It goes without saying that they are some of the coveted pieces of kit on the planet. Everyone from the road guys to the cross guys want them.

Here is the virtual shrine.
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/p...os+lightweights

Climbo,

I suggest heading over to weight weenies, Lightweights are the official club membership over there and everyone is very helpful.

Carbonsports posts there as well. Not many people have ridden the generation II model by the sounds of things...although it sounds like ride is the same (stiffness increase of 10% I believe, weight reduction, able to be identified through 4 stickers on each side of the rim)

by the sounds of all reports....they are brilliant.

best of luck!

d@mn it! beaten by Zank, again!

my mind was at the same speed...his fingers are faster though!

my fingers are probably the only things faster than you, Spider-pal. I'm sure your legs would give me a whoopin!

dood, that's 2k over the livin' the dream ceiling!

Kewl! You earn almost as much as a First Year F/O at an airline! (I am not kidding)